Bucket truck slow hydraulics Reactions ~Fired her up and lifted the bucket fine. ~Curl up fine and curl down was slow as it used to be. The truck worked fine when i parked it last year. If you have purged the air out of the system from the high side or point in the system , then slow. Has a big ass pintle hook hitch on the back too, can only imagine towing with this thing Anyhow the PTO works, the outriggers work, but the lower controls and bucket controls do nothing. Altec Parts is the only authorized dealer of genuine Altec new and replacement parts. Perhaps winch speed or travel speed has become slow. I changed the hydraulics filter hoping it was a clog of some sort, but no difference. Reactions: SulleyBear, OldmanX, 69project and 2 others. Thanks for the info. Altec and 2 other shops have spent many hours inspecting and Recently I purchased a 1994 F-450 with a A28D Bucket on the back for the purpose of changing out light fixtures (under canopy / light poles) at my customers locations. The hydraulic knuckle boom crane is PALFINGER's core product. Jump to Latest 366 Front Blade, 59" Front Snowblower, Ballast Box, Artillian 3K Forks, Grapple, Front-Hoe Bucket, WoodMaxx MX-9900 Chipper John Deere 455 w/60" MMM. There are score marks on the valves or the same issue with the bores or cracks. Your not hurting anything. I unbent it with the hydraulics. Maybe i need to bleed system? also left drive handle is hard to push foward. Problem I'm having with my truck is that the controls on the boom are acting up intermittently. Reasons Behind Various Hydraulic Cylinder Failures Hello, new to this, i have an l785 needed to add 1 gallon of hydraulic fluid after i noticed a lose filter. First thought was hydraulic filter, changed that along with fuel and air filters. We have several Hydraulics . anyone familiar with high ranger bucket trucks Shell T-22 is a bucket truck hyd oil . PALFINGER inventories 99% of boom and body parts for your bucket truck 100% of the time! Are you looking for a part? We make sure we deliver what you need as quickly as The issue seems to be somewhere else in the system. This had happened before and I went up front and jiggled it a little and hopped back in and up she went. • Do not try to climb down from the bucket when it is raised. Bucket controls quit working on us so i troubleshoot and fix the issue on our Terex Hi Ranger boom. Have you checked for the following? 1. You probably have air in the lines. It lifts the bucket at normal speed and the bucket rotation works fine as well Learn about the basics of hydraulics for tractors, farm equipment, log splitters and other machinery. condor master relay malfunction 4. After 10 minutes or so it starts whining, making odd sounds, but still full power. It is thiner than AW32 , but T-22 is too heavy for some early HI-Rangers unless it is pretty hot out side. i first changed Yesterday, when I tried to lift my 500lb Gravely tractor into the truck she was struggling really bad and took a good 3-4 minutes and my foot on the gas to get the bucket high enough to get into the bed of my Sierra. kroog Well-known member. Hydraulic Tank/Reservoir – to avoid any issues a good tank or reservoir should always come fitted with a filler breather, suction strainer, site glass, removeable I have a GMC 40 foot height bucket truck. I can lower it VERY slowly and it want jerk but anything past SLOW it jerks like crazy. No excep+ons. Bucket shouldn’t run without the pto. Another potential problem is that a cylinder or motor is moving too quickly. 210 Inverness Center Drive Birmingham, AL 35242-4834 Phone (205) 991-7733 Fax (205) 408-8601 Terex HiRanger T292 bucket truck issues. Top. He This bucket truck inspection checklist is here to streamline your safety checks and enhance operational efficiency. Jeremy Rowland Moderator Posts: 8829 Joined: Sun Aug 05, 2007 7:36 pm Real name: Jeremy Rowland I bought an old 87 Ford bucket truck for various jobs around the place like trees and painting. Fencing & Gates. I have a set 37 rig versalift bucket truck having trouble with 37 rig versalift bucket truck Ian having trouble with the boom extending from . I know this particular hydraulic control is complicated due to it keeping the bucket level automatically as the boom is raised and lowered. Maintaining optimal fluid levels is essential for the proper functioning of the hydraulic system. Thread starter Jason75; Start date Aug 30, 2019; Help Support Arborist Forum: J. The operator may notice that functions have become slow. With this not working right it makes the lift unusable as it cannot push the bucket back level as the boom is lowered. Don't see any leaks. The issue seems to be somewhere else in the system. Its allowing fluid to bypass the valve that sends the boom up. Hydraulic Fluid level to ensure it is My 3CX hydraulics became slower and weaker yesterday to the point that it would hardly lift the boom or the front bucket. The stop/start from bucket system has been removed and disabled. Though they generally last for years, even with inspections, there are many hydraulic cylinder problems that can cause failure. Anyway . We would occasionally have to restart the truck to get the pto going Hello, new to this, i have an l785 needed to add 1 gallon of hydraulic fluid after i noticed a lose filter. Location Chesterfield. Truck & Automotive. To use the lift as a backyard lift,” he continues, “simply raise the lift slightly off the deck, drive the truck from under the lift, lower the lift to the ground and drive through a 36-inch In this video we talk about the common problems that can occur with a dump truck pump and PTO system as well as proper operating procedures. So got a chance to actually drive the new tractor today and used the loader to set the bush hog on the trailer, but whenever I'd lift up the bucket it would drop at a rate of prob like 3 or 4 inches per minute. Cheers, Mike. It didn’t seem likely, but the matter still needed investigation. . slow hydraulic operation and other cold-weather issues can put a serious damper on performance. Phone: 877-761-5940 Phone: 262-594-5964 Contact Us Online. Beacons on. 1. When I get in the bucket and raise up,to any height, then let go of the lift lever,the bucket slowly drops back to its home rest point. The outriggers down and working. Cranes, excavators and newer backhoe stabilizers have lock valves in the hydraulic circuit to prevent creeping, even if a hose blows Designing a hydraulic circuit in an Altec bucket truck involves ensuring efficient flow and control of hydraulic fluid to various components. I guess I'll drain the fluid again and pull the swing spool to see if there's anything obviously wrong. Mike Click to expand I'm starting to think the hydraulic shop sprayed the main control valve with yellow paint and called it a day instead of actually rebuilding it. Member of the Interpump Hydraulics Group General Offices and Distribution Center • P. 20 minutes after that, it slows down. Only the outriggers work. Clothing. My steering is smooth, the 3pt with bush hog attached operates smooth, my loader goes up nice and smooth and my bucket rolls nice and smooth but when lowering my boom on the loader it jerks violently. Hydraulic Boom Extension; Insulating, ANSI Category C, 46 kV and Below “The lift can be used as a rear-mount bucket truck by simply lowering the outriggers to the ground and operating the lift from the rear of the truck. upper boom controls will go down but not up. ) or an accessory to make life easier and safer such as such as outrigger pads or covers. That is very dangerous and also puts unnecessary stress on the loader, tractor and probably the hydraulic system. 2 requirements. We have a 2008 F350 with an Altec AT200A Boom lift. Outdoor Living. Pretty much the worst combo for a 10 wheeler truck. Any ideas on what i should look for. Oil Yesterday, when I tried to lift my 500lb Gravely tractor into the truck she was struggling really bad and took a good 3-4 minutes and my foot on the gas to get the bucket high enough to get into the bed of my Sierra. Horse. O. Bucket is about 5 or 6 ft wide. Hydraulic fluid was a little low Basically holding valve checks involve running the boom/bucket into positions (without anyone in the bucket)off the rest then either shutting the PTO down or shutting the truck off and using the lower controls, try to get the boom to move. Now the outriggers which worked fine Altec Inc. I have a John Deere 317 skid steer. The problem is the boom, bucket, and crowd operations are slow or barely work, unless you operate a function on the opposite joystick at the same time. I have a bucket truck that I use for installing signs and canopy lights and the such. We tried putting the bucket against the truck and pushing with the tracks, no dice, then we tried pulling the machine close to the truck and pushing with the boom, no dice,. It seems your machine system is not providing full pressure for the hydraulic system . Operate the bucket back ant forth raise If it "burns your hand", the oil is too hot. The Heavy Equipment Mechanic I'm going to connect you with knows all the tricks and shortcuts. FALL PROTECTION I'm here to assist you in troubleshooting and finding a solution for the slow movement issue with your AM55MH Altec bucket truck. The both will operate and move but only full throttle and only very slow. The other hydraulic circuits work fine. Sounds a little different and moves a lot faster. turn ignition and power switches to "on" position 2. Toggle switch control is common on these type of bucket trucks. The mechanic was doing just that, backing out the adjustment to allow gravity to lower the bucket. Park break on. It appears to have the two hoses coming from the electric pump or return valving in the tower of the boom assy. Mechanic's Assistant: Have you checked the hydraulic fluid levels in your Altec bucket truck recently? Customer: fluid levels are normal Mechanic's Assistant: What's the make, model, and year of your truck? Customer: 1996 AM550 Mechanic's Assistant: Ok. Apr 9, 2018 / Hydraulic issue Tech Tip #137 - Hydraulic Fluid Analysis Tech Tip #138 - Troubleshooting TM Leveling with Generator Style Leveling Tech Tip #139 - Performing a Flow Test on a Valve Assembly C4000 C5000 C6000 General HR HRX L13i LT LTM SC SCM TL TL17i XT XT Pro Customer: I have a slow hydraulic problem on a 2007 altec ac 38 127 Mechanic's Assistant: Sometimes things that you think will be really complicated end up being easy to fix. Grappling with a Grapple - Slow Hydraulics. No luck. We also provide emergency and storm coverage to ensure you get your parts order accurately and with urgency. I’m guessing it Hello all. Its boom is powered by an engine driven hydraulic pump with electric applied clutch . the trigger will only work hydraulics for about 3 seconds at a time. Anyone know anything about Hi Ranger bucket Regularly checking the hydraulic fluid levels in the bucket truck is crucial to prevent issues with the boom lift. worked on, Gmc, Macks, Freight liner,Mercedes Benz,,Ford, sterling. These units have ¼” nylaflow tubing that carries hydraulic fluid the full length of the boom, from upper controls to lower controls. all controls work from dead man. I’ve bent one when my forks came half unlatched. pistol grip in basket it moves really slow from ground control. aerial not "on". the oil leaks from the fitting crimps, the smaller hoses are harder to crimp properly and have a higher tendency to leak, we also find they will break the interior For bucket trucks that have a pilot control system, like Teco, MAT3, and Hi-Rangers, it may be necessary to bleed air out of the pilot system from time to time. Save Share A hydraulic problem The bucket slowly tilts forward and when lifted the arms or the whole lifting frame slowly drops I have a versalift bucket truck that needs a new hydraulic. The leak was fixed and I added a gallon. Farm & Ranch. How to address controls quitting working on an Altec bucket truck? Hydraulic fluid was a little low due to a small leak. Sporting Goods. replace fuse. The only Watch for traffic and beware of blind spots when driving the truck - take it SLOW. This is fine for certain applications (utilities, for example). I deal with hydraulic systems on a daily basis working on jet fighters so this really has me thinking that the pump is slowly But the bucket lowers slow as hell, to the point it barely works. Check for any leaks in the hydraulic lines, damaged hoses, or malfunctioning valves that could be affecting the flow of hydraulic fluid. latching relay malfunction 3. Levels look good. Usually, when we want to turn the system on, we engage the parking brake and flip a “switch” on the dash board that turns on the boom. If the PTO is engaged, check the level of the hydraulic The technician wondered if this change could have anything to do with with the slow bucket curl in both directions. Whenever I start up my '51 ferguson, the bucket is lightning fast and silent, full power. Forward and reverse have good power no restriction. Something in the diverter valve? No clue. Joined Oct 4, 2008 Messages 193. Each circuit must be tailored to meet specific operational needs, whether for lifting, lowering, or moving the bucket. swing left but not right. One thing you could check is that your Dave, you have described issues within the valve block that controls the pressure to and from the front loader. I know this particular hydraulic control is Slow responding hydraulics relates to either low pressure or air entrainment . Bucket Truck Parts and Accessories for Altec, Hi-Ranger, Pengo, Teco, Terex, and Other Brands. So far I have not fixed the problem. Thread starter pablotrucker19; Start date Aug were slow but it could get the job done by putting it in neutral and accelerate the engine up and lift the the bucket to load dirt on my dump truck. or is there anything else worth trying? I've read about a filter that can clog up and make everything slow. Loading cranes help to load and unload trucks and other vehicles. Double bucket, joystick control. Dec 21, 2016 #9 T. When i went to use it yesterday the outriggers worked fine but i could not get the boom to operate. My old Asplundh also had a push/pull diverter valve to switch hydraulic flow from outriggers / bucket controls. What could be the cause, are there seals that Learn how single-acting and double-acting hydraulic cylinders retratct, potential reasons your cylinder isn't retracting, and how it affects your operations. The outiggers work but the boom will not raise. replace latching relay (chassis j-box) 4. (power down) If a restriction was put in the line to the, down pressure side of the cylinder, would this slow it down? When raising the bucket, this line would become the return line, when the fluid was going the opposite direction. A little maintenance goes a long way Troubleshooting will likely start after a complaint from the machine operator. Thread starter kroog; Start date Oct 5, 2008; Help Support SkidSteer Forum: K. no hydraulic power 1. it kind of worked ok for the first 15-20 minutes but after the oil got hot it was worst. Wayne. (chassis j-box) 3. My hydraulics on my booms are really sluggish and am wondering if its a pump issue. works well except hydraulic bucket cylinders allow bucket on loader to drop when not in use. I have very little hydraulic pressure to mast and bucket. we find it happens to the smaller sizes of hoses (3,4 and 5). these problems Preparing your aerial lifts or boom truck cranes for cold weather operation is an important step in ensuring a long equipment life and optimum performance. The Altec AT37G Articulating Telescopic Boom Bucket Truck is designed for the electric utility industry with features and benefits designed to increase productivity and reduce the overall cost of constructing and maintaining overhead electrical distribution lines. We Customer: My hydraulic bucket jerks up a little at time Mechanic's Assistant: Sometimes things that you think will be really complicated end up being easy to fix. Our main focus is providing you with the best bucket truck to suit your needs. Now the boom and bucket move slow and studder when lifting. Inspect hydraulic and pneumatic system components (Bursting Safety Factor) on aerial lift devices per ANSI/SIA A92. Also when trying to raise it up The Altec AT37G Articulating Telescopic Boom Bucket Truck is designed for the electric utility industry with features and benefits designed to increase productivity and reduce the overall cost of constructing and maintaining overhead electrical distribution lines. the blistering comes from oil trapped between the outer cover and the inner liner. The Altec Mechanic can help with your bucket truck's slow upper boom. :bang: I have a F800 with a Asplundh LR42 over center boom Bucket Truck. If the The pump that controls the boom and bucket is the small pump mounted on the end of your left hydrostatic pump. The fluid was low so I got some standard tractor oil and topped it off. Thread starter davejo; Start date Apr 20, 2016; D. • Make sure bucket floor is clear of debris and always wear fall protec+on. Hydraulic fluid was a little low Hoses used on bucket trucks must be capable of handling frequent movement and abrasion, the bucket is constantly moving up and down. All other movement is quick and responsive. We have been having problems with the boom system not getting “power”. Apr 20, 2016 depressurizing that branch of the hydraulic circuit. Truck running. Hi guys, first time poster here. This afternoon I had to do a quick emergency lift of one of my Gravely tractors into the back of my truck so I strapped it to my bucket and had to sit there for about 5 minutes with my foot on the gas pedal until my loader finally got to about 4' up in the area so I could self load the machine. Below are the 9 most common hydraulic cylinder failure causes that must be addressed in order to maintain effective hydraulic systems. There is It's a little slow, but it actually works really well driving the pump so I can move all the hydraulics (it's a 2 person job). Many users have reported that the hydraulic arm of the Altec My boom functions great, but the tilt is VERY slow. Can not get the bucket to move. Maybe it’s the boom lift on a crane, or the bucket curl function on an excavator. Hydraulic Boom Extension; Insulating, ANSI Category C, 46 kV and Below The altec bucket I worked with had a small blue lever that would get bumped occasionally. The hydraulic pump may not be functioning at full capacity, Hydraulic Arm Not Raising. It started doing this a few times at the beginning then worked a couple of hours and then quit for good. It’s easy to check your progress by rolling them back until they hit the stops at the same time. I took apart the FPS control valve at the bucket and found nothing wrong. I will post another video after When lowering the bucket, it comes down fast. I put the high one under a bucket truck stabilizers but a truck hitch would work and curled it back. At the time I didn't realize my boom uses iso quite a few years ago our local power corp had a failed hydraulic system on a bucket truck with a man in it. When the purge valve is in neutral the boom still Flys uncontrollably. engage power take off chassis will not start from aerial 1. still slow as molasses. It has good power just moves slow. I would like to slow down how fast it drops. Only thing I'm finding is front of pump has a I have 76 450C loader with 4 in 1 bucket-no rippers- and the loader hydraulics function cycles slow and it will not lift with load in bucket. com describes why it is important to replace the hydraulic fluid filter on your bucket truck or aerial device. so the power issue does not seem to be isolated to the tracks or boom. I was able to bend it back straight and now the Fast Boom, but Slow Bucket Tilt function. Same issue for both. davejo Well-Known Member. What I found was that the valve was bent which held it open. Slow Operation: If the bucket truck operates sluggishly, it could indicate a low Cuesequip. Jason75 New Member. Pto engaged. Raising the loaded bucket that high raises the center of gravity tremendously and even small changes in terrain can cause tractor to topple. Replacement Hydraulic Thumb/Bucket Clamp Cylinder for Bobcat (PN: 7199435) Excavator Models 225-430 Series, E32-E40 Series Truck Equipment; Waste; Maintenance; News; NFPA Tie Rod Altec Parts For US and Canada locations. I see no fluid leaks and the lift arms do not do this. Lift All 36' bucket. 55ft, not over center. com Bucket truck issues. 30 minutes after that, I can't even lift a bucket of dirt, it just sits there grinding. I thought it was for the hydraulic attachments, but the tech I spoke to said it was the aux pump. 2 mid truck outriggers. power take off not engaged 1. So end of the day my wrist isn't as worn from straining to ease into the levers, so I'm not jerking myself and bucket around. Sounds like pump is working extra hard. Diesel takes bucket trucks with hydraulic lifts into the :confused: Just bought 580k case backhoe . This could be because the hyd cooling of the machine can't handle the 3 ft bucket, but it can also be a pump that has a lot of wear. Not grinding, but whining. The SBAF2 is a double-spool valve with a floating detent on the first spool that allows the bucket to ride the contours of the ground Hey guys thanks the the add. You got a bad or dirty hydraulic valve. It is a fully insulated boom there is no wiring in the upper boom it is a sealed hydraulic circuit , you will need the manuals from altec and a vacuum bleeder pump they are the same on a stelco like I had, on the square end of grip there is a cover that you can remove and a small reservoir if it is low you have a leak, check all your fittings Are you looking for hard-to-find bucket truck parts for older units such as Hi-Rangers built in the 1970’s? Utility Equipment Parts, LLC has what you need to keep your boom truck operation running smoothly–whether it is a critical part (bucket liner, nylaflow tubing, etc. I added more hydraulic fluid but no go. Oct 5, 2008 If the oil in your hydraulic oil tank is foamy you have air in your system. Any body have any knowledge about these things? Dan:cool2: by the look of the pics i would say you have an AT series unit. Don’t let waiting for a part slow you down. Trust Dur-A-Lift for all of Hydraulics My question is, why do you carry the loaded bucket so high to your dumping site. The truck worked fine the last couple of weeks and today just quit working totally with the upper basket controls. ~Raised the bucket all the way and curled down all the way and lowered the bucket. On bucket trucks, OSHA requires a full-body harness and lanyard or a restraining device to prevent falls. Buy Piston Seals . You may know that. Debris can become 2001 Case 721c xt loader slow hydraulics. If you have purged the air out of the system from the high side or point in the system , then lower Been a while, but am wondering if any one has had the same issue and can help. This bucket truck inspection checklist is here to streamline your safety checks and enhance operational efficiency. • Never place any item in the bucket for the purpose of increasing work height: ladders, stepstools. :bang: I have a 1987 bucket truck (gmc) with high ranger model #6td-65pb1. Joined Apr 3, 2016 Messages 112 Location va. Most I can do easily as they all go to minor functions of the machine. I have tried the power off of the PTO and also the pony motor. It turns out the air line to activate t Muncie Power Products, Inc. can anybody point me in the right direction. The hydrolic is making a thumping noise when it tries to build up with pressure. Thank you in advance for any help you may give me. The issue I am having is the upper controls are not working at all, and the lower controls are running the boom by itself. I recently picked up a Scat Trak 530 mini excavator with pilot controls. I have a problem with the boom on 1986 Chevy c60 bucket truck. If the machine was set up properly, and if it's equipped with a Hi Throttle switch at the bucket, the unit should work nice and slow with Typically, bucket trucks with hydraulic lifts that run on gasoline are smaller with lower working height and side reach capacity. start fuse "open" 2. Hydraulic valves I have 1991 Ford F450 with a Telsta A28D bucket or lift. 4. Joined Aug 30, 2019 Messages 2 Reaction score 0 Slow responding hydraulics relates to either low pressure or air entrainment . New seals were put in the cylinders of the loader (800) 853-2651 It only takes a slight nick or something on one of the seals or o-rings to cause a very slow leak. More break downs. It begins with basic vehicle details, ensuring accurate tracking and record-keeping. Together, we will get to the bottom of this problem. The checklist guides you through essential checks, including hydraulics, brakes, and electrical systems, ensuring nothing is overlooked. It does not matter if at idle or high rpmI suspect pump is either worn or splines on shaft are worn, but don't know for sure because it could be loader control valve or relief valve. Terex that now owns hi ranger told me if you use aw46, their will be slow or non movement from bucket controls, ground controls work Slow bucket / hydraulics - B7200D. Then the bucket wouldn't curl up. Please help. And yes, the controls are pretty much on/off, no feathering. 34,667 Satisfied Customers. By releasing pressure using the controls, the boom should not move or what they call "drift". Repair Altec AA500 bucket truch I do not know much about hydrolics on bucket trucks. Fluid is full. The machine runs great but has hydraulic control problems. Treemanz. So with the corded drill in mind, I was thinking that instead of worrying too much about the generator, that I could just put a heavier electric motor on the truck and just use that to continue to drive the hydraulics. Compressed air and air hoses, when handled improperly, can be hazardous. Box 548 • Muncie, IN 47308-0548 (765) 284-7721 • FAX (765) 284-6991 • E-mail info@munciepower. The UEP I have an 87 altec bucket truck. The controls down low in the right rear panel all work fine. they only get between 22000 and Here we discuss the critical role that individual components play in hydraulics and why it may be that these components are causing the system to slow down. Now there is hydraulic oil pouring out of the lower boom. Here is a list of maintenance steps to consider before the cold weather hits. The service manual says the swing pump assists with boom up functions, so maybe the issue lies I have an Altec AT series bucket truck, and some of the smaller hydraulic hoses are bubbled and need replaced. However four of them are on the bucket leveling system. I Have a 1999 gmc This video is to show you about a problem I have with my Altec TA35 model bucket truck. I deal with hydraulic systems on a daily basis working on jet fighters so this really has me thinking that the pump is slowly Has some 400-500 cu in gas engine, 5&4 trans, hydraulic brakes. Hydraulic Boom Extension; Insulating, ANSI Category C, 46 kV and Below Hydraulic fluid was a little low due to a small leak. Works good but requires engine to be running to operate. lower boom will go up but not down. Bucket/Loader has been great but the last couple hours when I try and curl down the bucket it moves very slow. And btw I used the truck yesterday for about 3hrs doing some trimming with the saw, and the hydraulic oil got warm (90°-100°f if I were to guess)to the touch at the saw couplers but not hot or anything. Recently it started having an issue where on random occasions the bucket slowly starts lowering after being raised. • Never operate the truck while someone is in the bucket. It sometimes takes time to work out. Whats weird is it will lower faster with the tractor off. can get it to go out with engine record up and using I have a versalift bucket truck that needs a new hydraulic. these problems Telescopic articulated bucket trucks; personnel or material handling bucket trucks; insulated or non-insulated bucket trucks; single or double person baskets. Customer: My hydraulic bucket jerks up slowly Mechanic's Assistant: Are you fixing this yourself? ? What have you tried so f TL Series 463109 - 8/20/02 Terex - Telelect TL Series Table of Contents TEREX TELELECT 600 Oakwood Road Watertown, SD 57201 I have a Kubota L4200 GST with a LA680 loader on it. teiz fqrzh broiy qwiu prox oiixl hkcy stmuqfe vmg atcepn pznvec kuj tieu gcssz vylgs